Author Archives: Alex McManus (Footpaths)

“the dales way flowing between two hills”

DWwaymarkAt the first meeting in February 1991, to form the Dales Way Association, amonst the many objectives set out, the following was minuted: ” to look into the design of a Dalesway (sic) logo to be used as a waymark etc…..” David Walsh, one of the 7 individuals present, Kendal Ramblers Assistant Footpath Secretary, agreed to take on the task. His remit was ” text flowing between two hills”  At a meeting in July 1992, it was agreed that the text should be in lower case and DW to be two words. As the design was mainly as a letterhead, “It could only have ‘some similarity’ to a waymark.” It was decided that two versions should be produced, one for letterheads the other as a waymark. At the October meeting the logo was accepted and a different way mark would be developed. The question of obtaining copyright was out of the question as ” if someone copied it, we have no money to pay legal fees to defend it.



The Dales Way Association bi-annual News Letter.

E Newsletter 50 front cover

The Dales Way Association was formed on the 24th October 1991. By the end of the second Committee Meeting in May 1992, the Dales Way Objectives had been agreed, a draft Constitution had been produced, joining fees for members had been set at  £3. Achievement certificates were available and woven badges were being discussed, and a logo needed to be designed and agreed.

It was also decided that a Newsletter should be produced twice per year to be sent out to members. An annual Handbook would also be produced with up to date information about the route, to go out with one of the Newsletters.

Newsletter No 1, two A4 pages with text on all sides, was posted to all members, (13 in total) in July 1992. At the committee meeting on 28th July the Newsletter was described in the minutes as “satisfactory”  and subsequent copies would be titled Spring and Autumn. Issue No 2 was produced with the title Newsletter No 2. Spring 1993 and so it has continued to the present day with Newsletter No 50. Spring 2017. (Click to open)

When you join the Dales Way Association you will receive the E Newsletter in Spring and Autumn. You will also be able to access the Members Page. Here you will find in the archives, copies of the Annual General Meetings and Committee Meeting minutes from 2012, and copies of Newsletters from NL No 38. Autumn 2010, when our reorganisation had to take place. All the above items avilable to download in PDF format.

See on our Home Page.

“Join the Dales Way Association, now.”  Also,

“Why should I make a donation to the Dales Way Association.”

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Our President, Frank Sanderson, supplied acheivement certificates from his hotel on Brantfell Road before the Dales Way Association was formed and  then continued to do so

David Smith was Membership Secretary and also became News Editor. He produced 32 issues, ill health causing him to retire after issue 32 Spring 2008

Douglas Cossar produced the handbook from the beginning, rested for a couple of years before resuming until Spring 2013 when the Handbook was included into our web site.

All the above were part of the founding group of individuals.

Greenhead Farm. High and Dry.


Taste of the Dales Way 080Not quite singing in the rain, but an event many walkers experience if they are walking the Dales Way during a wet spell.

In 2015, Cumbria County Council , the Dales Way Association and the landowner Mr Allonby decided that something needed to be done about it.


Geoff Fewkes CCC, and Mr Allonby in yellow on his left, discus the plan.

To solve the pooling problem once and for all, a joint project was agreed by  CCC, the DWA and the landowner. The work started some months ago and has now been completed. CCC and the DWA have funded the materials. Mr Allonby has undertaken all the work at his expense. Thanks is extended to him as without his help and assistance, this project would not have been possible.

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Photos by CCC

The result looks very stark on the photo, but Mr Allonby assures us that his fine herd of cattle will do what they always do on farm roads and by next Spring we will not know that we are walking on concrete.

Run off has now created a pooling problem in the adjacent field: caused by the copious amount of water being used in this dry spell to allow the concrete to dry slowly and avoid cracking. To remedy this, CCC have further funded the necessary gullies and piping to drain the area affected. This will be installed soon, the path will not be affected.


Extra help at Burton House

Geoff Fewkes, Countryside Access Officer CCC, read the item below, and has now fixed a new Dales Way way mark onto the swing gate which is at the start of the new footpath.

As further help, for some walkers who are finding problems in Cumbria, for whatever reasons, the Dales Way Association have produced 3 short videos.

The Dales Way footpath in Cumbria. By gate, stile and finger post.

The videos are what it says in the title. Old “furniture” as the above are called may have been replaced with new, but a stile on your map or in your guide book is still a stile, old or new. You can find the above videos if you google the full title, or click on the link below.




Dales Way footpath diversion at Burton House

If the guide book you are using was published before January 2014 you should ignore the map/instructions at Burton House. (Off the A6)

In January 2014 the Dales Way was diverted. Instead of proceeding straight ahead and continuing through the buildings emerging and crossing the field to the stile and plank bridge, it now goes to the left of the building, through a new kissing gate on the left, continuing along a wide tractor/farm track, across the stream to join the original Dales Way.


New footpath – – – – – – – in black. Old footpath Red 

F (Custom).

A (Custom)

Gate on the left.

D (Custom)Do not deviate from this farm road.

Further information on our Home Page/”Where did it all go wrong”

Also archives Jan 2014

The Dales Way. Dogs and Cattle.

Ilk T Club Dogs 3

A lady dog walker contacted us and sent in the above photograph. She was concerned that the sign, positioned next to the Dales Way finger post, may be misinterpreted by first time Dales Way walkers thinking that it referred to the Dales Way footpath.

The notice is in the grounds of the Tennis Club indicating that no dogs are allowed inside their property. Dogs are welcome along the Dales Way but must always be under control.

As prospective walkers may be dusting down their guide books and maps, ready to embark on the great adventure, now is an appropriate time to add a few words re the title above.

Re your dogs, they must be under your control: on a lead where a notice requests you to do so, and in a field where animals are present.

Re dogs you may meet en route: problems with aggressive animals are extremely rare, but if you or any member of your party are threatened by a dog, the incident should be reported to the local police who will take appropriate action. We would like to be informed also, where we would take the matter up with the Authority or Council concerned. The Dogs Act 1871, although old is still powerful, providing a civil remedy . . . . even in and around a private dwelling. (Defra)

Re Cattle: again, problems with walkers and cattle are infrequent, but do happen. As a large part of the Dales Way passes through farmland (completely closed in 2001 because of the Foot and Mouth  outbreak) you can see cattle anywhere on your walk. The last incident reported to the YDNPA was in October 2012 and they sent the following information to help walkers.

“In the Yorkshire Dales, it is relatively common to find non-dairy bulls in a field along with cows or heifers, where that field is crossed by a right of way. It is important to understand that this is perfectly legal. However if a walker was attacked and injured by the cattle or bull and injured, the keeper may be liable for prosecution and sued for damages (under various acts,  if it was proved that he was aware of dangerous characteristics in the animals.)

The nature of Dales farming often means that the best grazing land is in the dales bottoms and this tends to be where the footpaths also run. We always advise to give cattle a wide berth. Dogs and cattle are often the trigger for incidents, where the cattle, especially when calves are present, become suspicious of the dog. In this case our advice is to let go of the dogs lead and quickly exit the field, allowing the dog to outrun the cattle”

Iain Mann. YDNPA

Dales Way Association Committee Meetings. AGM 2017

The Dales Way Committee meet 3 times each year, usually January, April and August.For the last 4 years we have met in Settle, moving from West Leeds to accommodate our two members, Tony and Donald, who have to travel from Burneside and Windermere respectively. At our meeting on January 19th, following other business, we fixed the date for our Annual General Meeting. Saturday November 11th. 2017

Our AGM used to be held in the Linton Village Hall, Linton in Craven, which is near Grassington, with a very pleasant country pub overlooking the village green, ideal for lunch after the traditional morning walk. The only problem we had was that the attendance at the meetings usually consisted of the Committee [less apologies] with guests numbering between 1 and 5. At the meeting in 2010 we had 3 visitors. In 2011 with a similar number we decided that a meeting place for our AGM needed to be somewhere easier and more convenient to reach if we wished to attract more people; with good  rail and road transport, together with other attractions. We decided on Ilkey for 2012.

The 2017 AGM will once again, be held at some pleasant and welcoming hostelry. With numbers joining in the morning walk in the mid twenties, it has proved to be the correct decision. Some couples and individuals construct an away break around the AGM, and travel some distance to get there.

With a decent attendance, we have become more adventurous for this years meeting and have invited a speaker. Alan Hulme, Head of Ranger Services, Yorkshire Dales National Park Authority will present a slide show and commentary titled, “A walk in the Park”

The day will commence with a 3 to 4 mile walk then lunch, with the meeting starting at 2pm and finishing at 4pm.

The date for the meeting is Saturday November 11th. We have picked this date to avoid local school holidays and festivals that we are aware of, to hopefully, avoid the increase in accommodation that those events attract. Further details will be published nearer the date on our web page.

We hope to see you on the day.